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magneito:

mY FAVORITE THING IS HEIGHT DIFFERENCE SHIPS WHERE THE SHORT ONE IS A LITTLE CONDENSED BALL OF PURE RAGE AND THE TALL ONE IS SUPER NICE AND NERVOUS AND ALWAYS HAVING TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE SHORTER ONE 

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September 12th, 1966

On this day, forty-eight years ago, four long-haired boys came barreling into living rooms across America. They gave millions of young people something to smile about, something to laugh at and to carry them away from their troubles, even for just half an hour each Monday evening.

No one could have known that this television show’s reach would extend far beyond its two short broadcast years. No one could have known that the Monkees’ story—a band that wasn’t a band, that ended up becoming a band—would be one told again and again, to the newer generations of fans that were to become legion as the decades passed.

To Bob Rafelson and Bert Schneider: Thank you for being the authors of the madness. For creating something that no one else would’ve dared to at the time. For pushing the envelope, inserting love and peace into the nation’s consciousness—all the while being subversive and expanding people’s minds without even knowing it. We all owe you a tremendous debt of gratitude…even if you guys did kinda end up being dicks towards the Monkees in the end.

To Don Kirshner, Tommy Boyce, and Bobby Hart: The Man with the Golden Ear, and the men who are responsible for us getting the funniest looks from everyone we meet. Thank you all for creating the soundtrack that brought the show alive. For your musical insights and knowledge, for being such hard-working individuals who translated songs into unparalleled success. We owe you all a tremendous debt of gratitude, too…even if you also ended up being a dick towards the Monkees in the end, Donnie K.

Last (but certainly not least), to The Monkees: Oh, boy. Where do we even begin? Thank you. Thank you not only for changing so many people’s lives, but also for saving them. Thank you for being the four friends so many of us needed when we didn’t have any, and the four friends we wanted when we did. Thank you for the joy, the comfort, the company, the lessons, and the love that you gave us. Thank you for being four pieces of the most delicious eye candy anyone has ever seen. Thank you for standing up, for fighting, for being true to yourselves even when everyone thought you weren’t a “real” band. Thank you for opening the world up and showing us what it could be, if only young people would work together for a common goal. Thank you for forging a connection that could outlast anything, even death.

Thank you for making daydream believers out of all of us.

HAPPY 48TH ANNIVERSARY TO THE MONKEES!

Peter discussing Mike and Micky’s vocals on “Pleasant Valley Sunday” with Bruce Pollack in 1982.

Photos from http://www.monkeesconcerts.com/

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Hi I'm wondering, since you seem to know some about monkees slash, are there any particular pairings that it makes more sense to ship than others? I just don't know much about the pairings and want to understand more. drzoro

Hi there! Wow, well this is certainly a big question. We’d be more than happy to tell you some info about the dynamics of each Monkees slash pairing, as this is something we’ve (obviously) discussed at length over the last few years. Our preferred pairing happens to be Torksmith (Mike Nesmith/Peter Tork), but the most important thing to keep in mind is that whether or not a pairing makes sense to ship is a purely subjective thing. So for example, what this means is that, while the pairing of Torklenz (Micky/Peter) might totally make sense to ship to one person, it might not make sense to ship them at all to someone else. So take a look at our analysis below and then feel free to draw your own conclusions.

(Also, you can always check out our #slash and #slaaaaash tags to read more about Monkees slash and our thoughts on the subject.)

Mike Nesmith/Peter Tork (Torksmith): While some Monkees fans express a great deal of incredulity at the idea of these two together, they are a personal favorite couple of ours. The two opposite personalities prove to be a powerful contrast—oil and water, dark and light, pragmatic Texan vs. free-spirited hippie. Odds are they would harbor a great deal of sexual tension between them—largely unresolved, because Peter fears being rejected by Mike, and Mike’s far too uptight and paranoid to even try to indulge that side of himself.  Yet when they really get into it (be it a fight or otherwise), the sparks start to fly. They are the “star-crossed lovers” of the bunch, and dramatic overtones are never in short supply when they’re around.

Micky Dolenz/Mike Nesmith (Dolenzmith): Mike and Micky are the “bromance” of the group. From almost the beginning, Micky has seemed to look up to Mike, to worship him, in a sense, and Mike has taken Micky under his wing. The “spontaneous goof” moments in Monkees episodes where Mike and Micky play off each other are classic (Save the Texas Prairie Chicken, anyone?), and the raw masculinity displayed by Mike serves as a great contrast for Micky’s more “delicate” sensibilities. Even now, Micky still idolizes Mike—affectionately quoting him in interviews and calling him “Papa Nez”—and the bromance lives on.

Micky Dolenz/Peter Tork (Torklenz): Peter and Micky are the “best friends” of the group. The two most “kid-like” members of the Monkees, it’s not hard to envision Peter and Micky dragging each other into the other’s schemes and adventures. Together, they make for a playful, yet very sweet, romantic/sexual dynamic. The laid back, easygoing nature of their personalities also allows for them both to switch effortlessly between being the dominant and the submissive. They are never afraid to act like 15-year-olds around each other, and even if one or both have wandering eyes, they still remain committed to each other at the end of the day.

Peter Tork/Davy Jones (Jork): The Hippie and the Diva is how we’d describe these two. Peter is laid back, sexually versatile, and more than willing to welcome Davy into the world of sweaty, man-on-man action. Seduction is possible on both sides, though, with Davy’s overly-inflated ego. It wouldn’t be hard to see him prancing around almost naked just because he knows it would get Peter riled up. The two personalities will sometimes clash, but ultimately they’ll have some great chemistry.

Davy Jones/Micky Dolenz (Jolenz): If Peter and Mike are the mom and dad of the Monkees, then Davy and Micky are the kids. The two youngest members of the group, they would comfort each other as much as they’d make each other laugh. Micky might be the one person Davy could really show his softer side to, and Davy (even though he’s younger) would be great at absorbing and staying levelheaded at Micky’s manicness.

Mike Nesmith/Davy Jones (Jonesmith): Ah, the two Capricorns. There’s no doubt that these goats would ram horns quite often. Mike would be drawn to Davy’s delicate physique—he’d want to assert himself in the dominant position because of Davy’s short stature. But personality-wise, Davy’s as domineering as Mike is, so they would surely often fight it out for who ends up on top. Both are also street-wise, being the two Monkees who grew up under tough, working-class conditions. So they are the two who most know what money is, and what it is to be without it, and would be able to understand each other well in that regard.

Sweet mother of Abraham Lincoln, what a hot man…

In the late 1960s, if you were a musician living in or visiting L.A, there were three party stops: David Crosby’s house, Mama Cass’, and Peter Tork’s.

"My friend Ned Doheny and I would say, "Let’s go up to Peter’s house, see what’s going on." Sometimes you would walk in and there would be twelve girls in the pool, naked. And they were beautiful women, people of substance, not bimbos - not that we would have minded if they were bimbos. One time Jimi Hendrix was up there jamming with Buddy Miles in the pool house, and Peter’s girlfriend was playing the drums, naked. She was gorgeous, like a Varga girl is gorgeous, this physically flawless creature."

Hey now, Wait a minute: Peter Tork Edition

Folks, we’d like to take just a moment to address an issue that never seems to fully go away in the Monkees fandom. It’s arisen yet again in the wake of an answer that thank-your-lucky-stars gave to an Anon earlier today, who asked why she doesn’t post more Peter Tork things on her blog. 

In the past, there have been clashes between certain Monkees fans—most notoriously, Mike fans and Davy fans after Davy’s passing. Yet regardless of the Monkee in question, it’s often been quite difficult for anyone to discuss not liking a Monkee for any specific reason, lest said Monkee’s fans catch wind and leap to the fore to wildly bash the so-called “offender.”

…This is not kosher, people.

The number one, super most important thing that anyone who is a fan of ANYTHING (The Monkees, The Beatles, television shows, actors, paper clips) should know is that there is always going to be someone who doesn’t like what you like, or who disagrees with you in some way…but that does not mean that you can’t go right on liking it

Now, a lot of times, fans do take things personally. That’s the nature of being a fan—you love someone or something, and seeing someone speak badly of that person can feel hurtful, because your feelings are so deep and significant, that somehow anyone offering a dissenting voice just seems wrong. 

Guess what? It isn’t wrong, kids. It’s only that person’s opinion, and getting in a huff about it…or worse yet, reading more into it than there is and putting words in people’s mouths…isn’t going to help anything. We at NP know there are lots of Peter lovers out there, and by all means you have every right to go ahead and keep loving him. 

BUT…in the same way that you don’t want someone to make you feel like crap because you love every single thing about Peter, it is also not okay to attack or make someone else feel like crap because they don’t. 

As Monkees fans, we all face and have faced the challenge of being derided or put down for being fans of a band that so many still insist on calling “fake.” It’s annoying enough to have to deal with that, and so the last thing that any of us want or need is further strife caused by infighting and drama-stirring among each other.

Drunk-dancing Micky Dolenz thanks you for your time, and don’t forget to save the Texas Prairie Chicken.

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why do you post loads of Micky but hardly any Peter? Anonymous

thank-your-lucky-stars:

(Sorry I’m only now getting to this)

I post loads of Micky because he’s my favourite, but I also post about Mike and Davy quite a lot too.

I don’t post about Peter as much because I don’t (and can’t) connect to him like I do the others. I have no problem with Peter and I don’t dislike him in the slightest, but when I first got into the Monkees I made an effort to watch loads of interviews with them and get to know each of them. From day one Peter has made me feel seriously uncomfortable when I see interviews with him (from back in the day and more recently). I know I’m not the only person who feels this way either, as I’ve spoken about this privately with people before. He has this nervous energy and comes across as childlike, awkward and weird, and it seems like he’s trying way too hard to play up to the cameras. The reason that makes *me* feel so uncomfortable is because *he* doesn’t seem comfortable either. I don’t know if he’s like this in interviews on his own because I haven’t really watched any solo-Peter interviews, but in group interviews the other guys seem less than impressed with him too, and the whole vibe is just off.

I’ve heard so many stories about Peter from people who’ve met him, and about 8/10 of those stories are really positive. I’m sure he’s lovely in person and totally different when the cameras aren’t rolling. I prefer show-Peter, and I think real-Peter did an amazing job with a character that was almost totally different from his real-self.

But that’s why you don’t see me post about him more. He was a gorgeous guy when he was young (and he still looks great for his age!) and while he isn’t a great singer and I don’t enjoy his voice I also respect that he was (and is) a seriously great musician (I love him playing the banjo!). I have no beef with Peter, he just isn’t for me. And I *do* post about him, just not as much as the other guys.

You are definitely not alone on this, sister. The unfortunate thing when it comes to Peter is that the adorable, sweet, laid-back blond hippie that he once was is very much not who he is now. That is not to say that he isn’t grateful for his fans, but there is an attitude and an air about him that—as you said—makes it difficult to connect with him. Nevermind that he absolutely should never do interviews, at least not TV ones (lest we forget the Rachel Maddow fiasco of 2012—just two days after Davy died, mind you). And of course, every story of meeting Peter is different, as he does have good days and bad days like anyone, but the distinction between him and, let’s say Micky, is that Micky will not take his bad day out on a fan…but Peter will. It just seems like age and time have hardened Peter in many ways (which is in sharp contrast to Nez, who has so completely mellowed the fuck out as he’s gotten older that you’d think he’s constantly medicated). Just our $0.02 on the matter.

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